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FiM TNtMD - Page 37: Breaking The Cycle by ArofaTamahn FiM TNtMD - Page 37: Breaking The Cycle by ArofaTamahn
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I always felt, ever since I was a child, that it was wrong to get mad at and punish kids when they did something bad, because when ever I would, I'd always feel bad about it shortly afterward on my own. I have no idea if the writers of FiM would portray Cadance like this, but I like to think she thinks this too.

So does this mean that Nahmat is just a child too? Perhaps.

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:iconcentaur71:
Centaur71 Featured By Owner May 21, 2014
hay, cryings good for the soul; she just needs to let it all out...
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:icongordelorth:
gordelorth Featured By Owner May 20, 2014
Best Pony ready to save the day
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fotland42 Featured By Owner May 9, 2014
Silly Nahmat. It is basically always productive to apologize for what you said. Words are not inherently painful. Words hurt because we believe them. And how can we go on truly believing them when the accuser does not?

And make no mistake, it was something you said. You said it very quickly and very forcefully, but a transfer of information is a transfer of information. So go to her. Tell her you cherry-picked from her memories to paint the darkest picture you could. Say it's not true. Explain that everybody has their dark moments. Go apologize, because it will help.
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princessjulliet123 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2014  Hobbyist Artist
...just like a mother..!
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watcher25 Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2014
... uh, not really sure if Nahmat can do much good to council fluttershy... or even if that is what Flutteshy needs...

Duh, course Nahmat know better now (even still it was just like a bad dream that is just a bunch of thought for review/ learning... not like what frigging discord did...)

(Does anyone else get the point that it was a misunderstanding....? i swear...)

"Hey sorry we got off on the wrong leg, i didn't like what happened but I'm glad it was just a mental exchange..."

and- Woah...! dude, portal/ inception water teleport... How the crap is she aware of their location like that...?
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PinkieTane Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
but she had full right to be mad at Fluttershy. And Fluttershy had the right to use the stare on her
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karkovice1 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013

Well, if an adult is being CHILDISH, they should be treated as such, I always say... :P

 

Cadance has every right to feel angry, but she IS, after all, the Princess of Love; and she has no compunctions about spreading it around freely... even though it's sometimes not in the way that you'd normally see on the show, as was evident here. :)

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Starsword Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2013   Writer
FINALLY! I'm relieved to finally find someone like-minded on this subject. I know I always felt awful after each little antic of mine when I was a kid, so punishment was (to me) redundant If I were ever to have kids, I would be firm, but loving and supportive, never angry enough to punish them. There are a disturbing number of fics on the internet portraying Celestia as a Princess able to hand down punishments willy-nilly. Celestia may have a few faults here and there, hubris chief among them, but she looks upon her subjects as her children, and therefore loves each one unconditionally in the way a mother loves her children. With that in mind, I suspect that although there must be SOME prisons somewhere in Equestria, they remain largely empty (Except, perhaps for the occasional troublemaker who stole something and needs to cool his hooves and think about his actions more carefully). I can well imagine Celestia shedding bitter tears each night, crying herself to sleep for the 1000 years she was forced to imprison her sister in the moon and blaming herself for not paying closer attention to her sister's feelings.sad 
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timgil Featured By Owner May 9, 2014
Sometimes children need a disincentive to keep them from doing wrong. They will test the limits, see what they are able to get away with, and if no repercussion is forthcoming, they will merely get bolder. There especially must be discipline when their actions bring harm to others. Punishment can take many forms, it need not be physical or verbal, time-outs, extra chores, removal of privileges or of expected benefits are all valid methods, but the child should not be happier after being punished for their bad behavior, than if they had not engaged in the bad behavior at all. You must be loving and nurturing, and listen to them, but do not spoil them by ignoring their misdeeds. If mere admonishments are enough to curb such behavior, then good for you, but realize that for many, indeed most it will not be enough.
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Starsword Featured By Owner May 16, 2014   Writer
You are right, of course. If a child of mine engaged in bullying (for instance) I would certainly feel that merely getting him to apologize to the bullied kid wouldn't be enough. To be a good parent, one would also need to explain why what they did was wrong as well as reinforce the lesson by some form of consequence. Otherwise, (as you quite rightly pointed out) they may not associate the negative repercussion with the action that caused it.
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Kingofthecouch Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013
i am in the mind of everyone should in this type of situation everyone should take 2 steps back, take a deep breathe, and let cooler heads prevail
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SaryTheWolf Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That's fine as long as, like Nahmat, they realize that what they did was wrong and feel bad about it. Otherwise they just grow up thinking they can get away anything.
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ragnad Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
Canon might support your conclusion that you’d pick AJ as Twi’s closest friend among the five. Consider this - when Twilight is troubled, does anypony notice it sooner than Applejack? When Twilight could use some reassurance, advice or steadying words, does anypony extend that helping hoof nearly as often as Applejack does?
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Assuredly Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Rarity?
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JamesRye Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
I like how you showed Twi/AJ here. I always thought of those two being the "leaders/leader&co-leader" of the group once something needs to be decided/done. Just on different aspects with Twi being the one with academic intelligence and scientific smarts while Aj is the one with streeth smarts and down-to-earth attitude.
Though of cource, both are harldly perfect leaders as we've seen both doing their faults in the past. But together i think those two could take on any problem with the help of their friends.

Its why i also think AJ and Twi are best friends, if i had to pick one of the 5 to say she´s Twi´s closest friend then that would be AJ. At least for me ofc.^^
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ragnad Featured By Owner Dec 2, 2012
I check you to nine decimal places about Twilight being the group leader and Applejack being the co-leader. Given her qualities, AJ would be the group leader in almost any other ‘toon.

I wonder if Applejack's advanced EQ makes her the closest peer to Twilight’s stellar IQ?
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pushyreeder Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
love it!i fave!you should check out my art sometimes!
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Array-71 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I really like the look of pony Nahmat.
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Dragonrose36 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Sometimes, though, kids don't understand that what they did was bad, or why.
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ArofaTamahn Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Drawing from personal experience, whenever I did something bad and didn't realize it, all it took was for why it was bad to be calmly and clearly explained to me. Like, "it hurts when you do that. Please stop."
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Kingofthecouch Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2013
same but i still get yelled at
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tw8687 Featured By Owner Dec 3, 2012
Ironically,I feel Nat should be the one who should be going through what Fluttershy is going through after that stunt Nat did to her. She made Fluttershy see her side, but Nat should be the one to see her own self-righteousness and see what harm she caused.
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Dragonrose36 Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
That was usually enough for me too - though sometimes my siblings and I did get spanked if what we did was bad enough. Never to excess, though.
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Thejboy88 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
To do something that terrible to a pony as sweet as Fluttershy is not something I could ever condone.

It may be true that she's done things that I myself would regret doing, but like may people, we sometimes do things that we don't meant to in the heat of the moment.

It doesn't make those actions right, but those actions are against our inherent nature, so they should not be used as a weapon against us.
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GodTiger Featured By Owner Dec 1, 2012
why is fluttershy the exception? That's what i don't get about mlp fans.
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AlexKazhdan Featured By Owner Sep 18, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's because of her cuteness and sensitivity. Fluttershy is my favourite pony, but I think she got what she deserves.
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cormy1 Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
Dat panel 8 head hang...
She is being assaulted by... THE GUILT!
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:iconredeevee:
RedEevee Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2012
Futtershy is a nice pony, true she has the stare but she only use it when she needs it and Iron Will was the one that made her end up abuse it.
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SemiJuggalo Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
"Stare" nothing, Fluttershy was just kicking flank left and right. It was when she started being mean to Pinkie Pie and Rarity that she realized that she had gone too far.
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RedEevee Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
true
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