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"I've always been methodical, goal oriented. Psychotically so. So I think it's refreshing, to every once in a while, have some fun."

Two things I wanted to do with Gralo on this page. One, have some fun with how the ponies seem to expect the bad guys to divulge their plans at a moment's notice (see Gralo's look disdainful boredom in the second frame). And two, do something scary that no other villain in MLP quite managed to do.

A pattern I've noticed with all the major opponents that the mane six have faced, is that there's always some corrupting influence involved whenever "evil" is present. With Nightmare Moon, it was the forces of darkness that latched onto Luna in a moment of weakness. With Discord, it was his magic that made the mane six go bad. And with Cadance, although we were set up to think that she had turned into a manipulative jerk since Twilight saw her all those hears ago, it was Chrysalis in disguise as her the whole time.

Gralo, on the other hand, his only influence was to withhold crucial information and inhibit the rational thought of a chosen few, and then let the rest act natural.

This, I think, delivers a very scary and important message. Good people can turn bad with no need for the intervention of extraordinary forces.

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:iconkujiiro:
Kujiiro Featured By Owner Aug 19, 2014
Heh. I like the parrot thing going on here. Very nice.
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tank2259 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2014  Student Traditional Artist
COOOOME OOOOON HAVE U NOT LEARNT UR LESSON USING THE ELEMENTS OF HARMONY ON A FOE STRAIT AWAY IS GOING TO FAIL!!! thank u that was my rant :3
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Kendell2 Featured By Owner Edited Jul 5, 2014
Okay...I honestly need to point out my opinion on the 'dull their wits' thing.

Please not, this is NOT me being mean, this is my honest opinion. Please don't take this the wrong way. This is mainly just pointing out this doesn't really add up.

But...at WHAT POINT did Gralo and Garret ever do anything suspicious? And it honestly seems to WEAKEN the point you were trying to make with him.

It honestly feels like the sole point of this is to make it seem like Nahmat is LESS to blame for this mess than she actually was (and to be honest? I think she overall HELPED Gralo's plans rather than hurt them at this point in the story).

I'm sorry, but at what point did Nahmat do anything to make her seem more trustworthy than Garret?

Gralo had spent this entire time acting like a good little hurt griffin while Nahmat introduced herself by blatantly using her mind magic on everyone. 

I'm sorry...but I think all Gralo needed to do was just make sure Garret didn't do anything suspicious and Nahmat would've done the work for him. In fact, she kinda DID all his work for him.

It feels like this could have been left out and the story would've been considerably stronger. 

It feels like it only exists so Nahmat looks like being less responsible for this mess than she actually was. Gralo's speech works well, but him 'dulling their wits' feels like you're saying 'they had reasons to think to do that' when they really didn't. 

This isn't meant to be mean, it's just me pointing out that I think the story would've been better off without this part.

I hope this doesn't upset you, but this part honestly feels like it detracts from the story rather than adds to it.
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SugarHoneyIceTea123 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014
I think it's more that he was keeping them from connecting the dots that maybe the being Garret was running from and the being Nahmut was pursuing were one and the same. They were so focused on the whole 'Their stories contradict so one of them must be a liar!' thing that they didn't think of how their stories connected. I think that's what Gralo means when he claims to have 'muddled' their minds.
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:iconkendell2:
Kendell2 Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014
Interesting theory, but it seemed more by his words it WAS a spell than just him manipulating things, which doesn't make sense to me.
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MacyIsHere Featured By Owner May 11, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i don't think the elements will work this time ....
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Hoopus Featured By Owner May 10, 2014
Haha, he said it!
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fotland42 Featured By Owner May 9, 2014
A Spy Kids quote. It's been a while since I saw that movie. I had to ask Google for help to remember where that line came from at all.

Well, let's see what happens when you blast an extradimensional being who eats magic with the Elements of Harmony, shall we?
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Hoopus Featured By Owner May 10, 2014
You mean "Evil wins when good acts not?" It's a variation of "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing," which is a quote from some guy (who Google tells me is Edmund Burke). I saw a poster that said this about every day in high school. :P
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:iconfotland42:
fotland42 Featured By Owner May 11, 2014
"I've always been methodical, goal oriented. Psychotically so. So I think it's refreshing, to every once in a while, have some fun."
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NellzDaBlackKing Featured By Owner May 8, 2014
This is not gonna end well... for them.
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ColonelBSacquet Featured By Owner May 3, 2014
"Good people can turn bad with no need for the intervention of extraordinary forces."

Well, Celly ultimately turned bad because of Gralo's actions. Right ?
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ColonelBSacquet Featured By Owner May 3, 2014
It's kind of ironic to see such a criminal speaking about justice.

And what's more, he's tauting Twilight, implying she's stupid.

That manipulative jerk.
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BlackHat6 Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
As one stated (To which I agree), Darth Vader's voice would work for him.
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marinus18 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2014
also, again we learn that everyone has their limitations. Also the insight of Nahmat isn't perfect.
I think that means more than any mistake she made. The limits of the thing she is most skilled at and prides herself in.
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marinus18 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2014
why is Gralo's speech buble a different colour in picture 10? Does he mean it as a quote from Nahmat?
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:iconarofatamahn:
ArofaTamahn Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
He was actually trying to imitate Applejack's voice on page 38. The colors are off because, although he's a parrot, he can't imitate voices perfectly.
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:iconchaoticnote:
ChaoticNote Featured By Owner May 9, 2014  Hobbyist Writer
Garlo wants a cracker.
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:iconmarinus18:
marinus18 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2014
oh, it does sound like something Nahmat would say.
just a fact: most parrots can't imitate voices. Only a handful of species can.
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:iconwatcher25:
watcher25 Featured By Owner Mar 28, 2014
Damn straight

but that is a very important point to no forget: the brightest light castes the longest/ darkest shadow...
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langslock Featured By Owner Mar 26, 2014
Did Gralo really need to inhibit the Mane Six's minds in order to keep them from asking inconvenient questions?  I could be wrong, but judging by their behavior in this comic, I would think that their prejudice against Nahmat would be enough to do that.  Plus, I can easily believe that Twilight would not suggest asking Garrot's opinion on the scanner spell simply because Celestia had already forbidden it.
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ULTRADJ4EVER Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2014
Not gonna work
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DXCLove Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
One thing I would like to know is why make gralo a African grey parrot why not a falcon of a eagle or.....I don't know a pigeon
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:iconarofatamahn:
ArofaTamahn Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Why not a parrot? Also, parrots scared me as a child.
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:icondxclove:
DXCLove Featured By Owner Nov 30, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Aww heheh
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:iconsilverstarlite:
SilverStarlite Featured By Owner Aug 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
theres a persona 4 reference here somewhere, i know it!
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GodTiger Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2013
this is juust so amazing
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:icon999lazerman:
999lazerman Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2013
Has celestia been running from her dark side in this fic?
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:icon999lazerman:
999lazerman Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2013
Has celestia been running away fr
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:iconcommanderex:
CommanderEX Featured By Owner Jul 30, 2013
Did the villain just made a Persona 4 reference ?

Someone play "I will face myself" music here.
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:icon999lazerman:
999lazerman Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013
Was gralo also saying that nahmat only cared about getting her job done?
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AnaShadowWolf Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2014
I think it's that she was too focused on getting justice done. Once she saw Gralo, she didn't stop to think that he could be HIDING inside Garret, she only thought about getting him (remember, he DID cause a lot of things on her world, so maybe this is sort of personal to her). Plus, when Celestia used the bridle on her, it was dark magic. It hurt her, worked on fears and hate. Nahmat said herself, she WANTED Celestia to prove her wrong, she wanted to believe she was a good leader. She was desperate.
So, no, I don't think she cared only about getting her job done, it seems to be bigger than this.
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MurderosZdska Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013

Panel 10 caused me to think of Persona, for some reason.

I wonder why...?

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KingArthur5 Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013
Wow. I always enjoy your psych evaluation descriptions. They really add to the comic as a whole and helps us catch things that maybe aren't so obvious (ie Gralo being a much more different villian)
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JamesRye Featured By Owner Jul 28, 2013
Panel two was so lol. XDDD

Hm, looks to me like the others are more interested into dealing with this villian the usual way than Twi is. In the show its usually Twi who calls out that they gonna use the elements to save the day, here its the five others and then Twi who says nothing and just follows.

If its true what Gralo says about Nahmat and Celestia then that makes both of them more believeable charas, one who dishes out pain using justice and one who´s afraid of her dark side and who can´t deal with it.
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E-man300 Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013
GOGET HIM GIRLS!
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SoraNoRyu Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013
The analogy with the shadows is a sadly true one. The shaddows at noon may be the smalles, but they are also the deepest and darkest. And Celestia is in a position where she has no one to light that shadow for her, or at least didn't have one for a good 1000 years and maybe even some time before that.

And what is also true (but not said here) is that no one can see the shaddow they themselves cast behind them.

Chances are the elements won't work here; that would be too easy. The elements draw their strenght from friendship, and that IS probably the most fitting weapon against a foe who causes distrust, but they likely will have to see that truth to grow the strenght needed.
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:iconkarach0s:
Karach0s Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013
Why do ponies always react like Rainbow Dash (her line is priceless though) when someone reveals the truth about their manipulative sun princess? :D
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:iconemperorvertige:
EmperorVertige Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013
Everybody does. It's simply denial. He could be saying all that about Pony Joe, and I'm sure Dash would say the same thing.
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Revolver-D Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013   Digital Artist
I guess I want to dub the voice of Gralo! With super duper LOW VOICE /:]
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:iconearthpatriot117:
Earthpatriot117 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013
a giant parrot? .......doesn't sound scary, but when you look at HIM one changes their mind. lol
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Alancar2 Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013
Jezz...this comic is brutal with it's characters :o (Eek)
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:iconbijuu-sama:
bijuu-sama Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013
i'm predicting this does nothing due to the different way magic works in Gralo's world.
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:icongoldeenherself:
GoldeenHerself Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013   Traditional Artist
Niiice bird?
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:iconterrortheslayer:
Terrortheslayer Featured By Owner Jul 27, 2013
Just back away slowly and he won't see us...
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GoldeenHerself Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013   Traditional Artist
TOO LATE! :sprint:
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:iconterrortheslayer:
Terrortheslayer Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2013
Hay?! Whit for ME! <img title="Time to haul ass out of here!" width="101" height="20" />
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Zeke-Icarus-Zephyr Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013
Panel 5....OH GOD EYEBALL! IT'S STARING AT ME!
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999lazerman Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013
Yeah :{
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NamikazeMika Featured By Owner Jul 26, 2013
Nice Spy Kids reference.
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